Barry Rothman's Health Professions Web Site
at San Francisco State University
Pre-Nursing Summer 2014 Advising Course (Click Here)
Barry's Jan, 2014, Podcast on Accepted.com (Click Here)
Update - Formal Post-Bac Program (Click Here)
Update - Dental Post-Bac Program (Click Here)
Update - Pre-Nursing Post-Bac Program (Click Here)
Recent Talks (Click Here)
SF Bay HCOP (Click Here)
Update - Summer Science Institute (Click Here)
Each summer we will offer a low-cost,1-unit Pathways to Nursing course to be held over a period of 5 weeks - mid-July to mid-August. Its goal is to provide effective career advising to pre-nursing students. This course will be open to all pre-nursing students, whether undergraduates or post-bacs. The course is offered as Credit/No-Credit only, and will cost a total of about $300.
Click Here for more information about the Pathways to Nursing course.
Click Here for link on my web site.
Click Here for link on Accepted.com's web site.
Index (entire recording ~48 min):
- 00:03:21 – My journey from research to post-bac program director.
- 00:08:57 – The support group model I use for SFSU post-bac programs.
- 00:15:33 – Post-bac programs for career changers.
- 00:18:30 – Post-bac programs for academic enhancers.
- 00:21:50 – Right time to apply to med school; (and dealing with parents).
- 00:24:51 – The advantages of formal post-bac program.
- 00:29:00 – Many types of post-bac programs; choosing which is best for you.
- 00:33:10 – Is there a future for online post-bac courses?
- 00:36:07 – Advice for career changers.
- 00:37:57 – Learning challenges: “I study so hard, but my friends get As while I get Bs and Cs”
- 00:47:36 – Dealing with urgency: Is this cycle the right one for you to apply to med school?
The Formal Post-Bac Program consists of two highly structured and supportive components used to prepare students for applying to graduate health professions schools such as medical, dental and pharmacy schools: a Career Changer Track (CCT) and an Academic Enhancer Track (AET). The CCT is for those needing to take for the first time pre-requisite science and math courses and a limited number of upper-division science electives. The AET is for those who need to improve their academic record by retaking some pre-requisites and upper-division science electives as well as taking for the frirst time a number of upper-division science electives. See the Comparison Table and Summary page for more details.
An online application for the CCT and the AET is always available. Both tracks use the same application, admit students each semester and have the same deadlines. However, the number of students admitted depends on both track and semester (summer: CCT~60, AET~25; fall: CCT~5, AET~25; spring: CCT~3, AET~25). See the Application and Admission web page for details. Applications are still being considered for admission into Cohort 7 (CCT) and Cohort C (AET) for spring 2013; both began this summer 2012 in early June. Cohort 8 (CCT) and Cohort D (AET) will begin in early June, 2013.
The 2012-2013 application should be used until a new application becomes available. Applications for fall 2014 are now closed and applications for spring 2015 are now open. Deadline: Oct 15, 2014. Late applications will be considered if space is available.
We offer a highly successful Dental Post-Bac Program for about a total of 18 dental school reapplicants and first-time applicants that .have completed all dental school pre-requisite courses, are socionomically disadvantaged and are committed to practice in underserved communitiies.The 2013-2014 Program has been filled and began in late July, 2013 . The 2014-2015 application is now closed. The 2012-2013 application should be used for 2015-2016 applications until a new application becomes available. Deadline: April 1, 2015.
In summer 2012, we began a 4-15 month Nursing Post-Bac Program for Cohort Alpha, a group of about 30 pre-nursing students who still needed to take or retake some or all of the nursing school pre-requisite course work. About 8 additional students were admitted as transfers in fall 2012. We repeated this process in summer/fall 2013 for Cohort Beta. At present, 17 of 19 (93%) applicants from Cohorts Alpha and Beta have been admitted to US nursing schools, mainly MSN programs.
A downloadable application for this program is always available.
Applications for summer 2014 entrants and fall 2014 transfers to Cohort Gamma are now closed. Applications for spring 2015 transfers are now open. Deadline: Oct 15, 2014. Late applications will be considered if space is available.
Click Here for more information about the Pre-Nursing Post-Bac Program.
Click Here for my Podcast on Accepted.com (Jan 9, 2014).
Click Here for Dr. Shannon Anderson's Health Professions at SFSU talk (Apr 13, 2013).
Click Here for Rachel Small's Pre-Nursing PB Info Session at SFSU (Jan 31, 2013).
Click Here for my Formal PB & Dental PB Info Session at SFSU (Jan 31, 2013).
Click Here for Rachel Small's Pre-Nursing Info Session at SFSU (Nov 3, 2012).
Click Here for my Post-Bac Workshop presentation at SUMMA (Feb 11, 2012)
Click Here for my Post-Bac Panel talk at the WAAHP meeting (May 2, 2011).
Click Here for Dr. Andrea Boyle's Pre-Nursing Info Session at SFSU (Apr 13, 2011).
Click Here for my Post-Bac Workshop presentation at MIH-UC Berkeley (Apr 9, 2011).
Click Here for my Post-Bac Workshop presentation at AMSA-UC Berkeley (Mar 5, 2011).
Click Here for my Post-Bac Advising Workshop presentation at SFSU (Feb 22, 2011).
Click Here for my SFSU Post-Bac Programs presentation at SFSU (Feb 15, 2011) .
SFSU, in partnership with the Stanford University School of Medicine and the UC Berkeley School of Public Health, has been awarded a 3-year federal grant to promote the entry of students who have had to deal with socioeconomic challenges into the health professions. This program has been extended an additional year (Sept 2013-Aug 2014). At SFSU, SF Bay HCOP funds stipends and additional support services for a group of "HCOP Scholars" chosen from the Formal Post-Bac Program, Dental Post-Bac Program and Summer Science Institute (see below). The award also funds a number of support activities at SFSU, Stanford and UC Berkeley. Lastly, it funds several joint efforts among the three partner schools to provide advice and support to pre-health students throughout the San Francisco Bay Area.
Click Here for the SF Bay HCOP web page.
Informal Post-Bac Programs
For those taking major's level pre-requisite science and math courses (Career-Changers) or upper-division science courses (Academic Enhancers) in a less structured environment and for lower tuition. Due to California budget cuts, 2nd-Bac Programs throughout the CSU were eliminated in spring 2010 and will remain closed for the foreseeable future. The Open U Program is still available at SFSU and other CSU campuses, but due to these budget cuts and subsequent increased enrollment demand by undergraduates, it is difficult but not impossible to get into classes through this program. See the Comparison Table for a feature-by-feature analysis of the Formal and Informal Post-Bac Programs.
For about 24 socioeconomically disadvantaged undergraduates who intend to enter any health profession. Provides extensive academic support and career guidance during an intevsive 8-week summer program, with weekly follow-up activities during the fall and spring. Applications for summer 2014 will become available in early 2014. Use the following links: SSI Home Page, SSI Online Application, SSI E-mail. Deadline: March 15, 2014; late applications will be considered if space is available.